gnasher729
Dec 3, 06:03 AM
Why all the focus on Bach in this thread?
Beatles>Jesus>Beethoven>[insert 40 or 50 names here]
>Bach
I think there was a quote from Mozart, who obviously didn't know the Beatles, who didn't rank Jesus very high as a composer, but who put Bach ahead of Beethoven.
Beatles>Jesus>Beethoven>[insert 40 or 50 names here]
>Bach
I think there was a quote from Mozart, who obviously didn't know the Beatles, who didn't rank Jesus very high as a composer, but who put Bach ahead of Beethoven.
kbmb
Apr 11, 09:43 AM
Unless they need one of the new bells and whistles, why upgrade? The old version still works, so unless there is a must have feature then there is no compelling reason to upgrade; other than you *want* the latest version independent of *needing* it.
If they do need it, but can't afford it; they probably need to reassess their line of work.
Problem is, Adobe in the past has been really bad at updating, even basic bugs etc with current versions of software. Basically, once a new version comes out....seems Adobe likes to bail on previous users with patches and bug fixes.
Me personally, I paid a lot for CS5, and I'd like at a minimum to be able to get bug fixes, patches, performance tweaks, for longer than 1 year. Ok, when CS6 is released, fine....scale back up bug fixes, etc. But I don't buy this half point release BS.
-Kevin
If they do need it, but can't afford it; they probably need to reassess their line of work.
Problem is, Adobe in the past has been really bad at updating, even basic bugs etc with current versions of software. Basically, once a new version comes out....seems Adobe likes to bail on previous users with patches and bug fixes.
Me personally, I paid a lot for CS5, and I'd like at a minimum to be able to get bug fixes, patches, performance tweaks, for longer than 1 year. Ok, when CS6 is released, fine....scale back up bug fixes, etc. But I don't buy this half point release BS.
-Kevin
blackpeter
Oct 11, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by sturm375
Apple computers are primarely sold to very practicle users. "We don't need 3 Ghz to read email." Most everything done on an Apple runs fast enough, plus the UI (user interface) is so exceptional, that many times you can do more with an Apple, than a PC.
If a standard hammer works to drive in a nail, why try to inovate on performance. Instead let's inovate on style, something the PC world is seriously lacking.
Well said. I have to agree with you.
Most friends and relatives bring up the clock speed and price. But when they see how the machine looks on my desk, when they step up to OS X and take it for a spin, they see why I could take a speed "loss" for all the luxury that Apple brings to the user experience.
Now, a lot of us rumor-heads are focused on bleeding-edge. And it kinda burns us that Intel/Athlon chips are closing in on 3GHz and we've just broken 1 gig. But we (rumor-heads) are the few, and PC marketing no longer seems to focus on speed. And I believe that Apple is slowly turing more heads out there.
Apple computers are primarely sold to very practicle users. "We don't need 3 Ghz to read email." Most everything done on an Apple runs fast enough, plus the UI (user interface) is so exceptional, that many times you can do more with an Apple, than a PC.
If a standard hammer works to drive in a nail, why try to inovate on performance. Instead let's inovate on style, something the PC world is seriously lacking.
Well said. I have to agree with you.
Most friends and relatives bring up the clock speed and price. But when they see how the machine looks on my desk, when they step up to OS X and take it for a spin, they see why I could take a speed "loss" for all the luxury that Apple brings to the user experience.
Now, a lot of us rumor-heads are focused on bleeding-edge. And it kinda burns us that Intel/Athlon chips are closing in on 3GHz and we've just broken 1 gig. But we (rumor-heads) are the few, and PC marketing no longer seems to focus on speed. And I believe that Apple is slowly turing more heads out there.
Evangelion
Aug 29, 09:23 AM
I don't know what people are fussing about. If these price points are true, Windows Vista is pretty cheap.
Remember, if you buy Vista, it'll most likely last at least 4-5 years before the next paid upgrade, unlike with OS X where if you want the latest and greatest, you're looking at an upgrade almost every year.
But you are not required to upgrade OS X all the time. Hmmmm, maybe some people should start to look at Linux by now. With Ubuntu folks could get two upgrades every year, and they are 100% free :).
Remember, if you buy Vista, it'll most likely last at least 4-5 years before the next paid upgrade, unlike with OS X where if you want the latest and greatest, you're looking at an upgrade almost every year.
But you are not required to upgrade OS X all the time. Hmmmm, maybe some people should start to look at Linux by now. With Ubuntu folks could get two upgrades every year, and they are 100% free :).
toddybody
Apr 14, 10:38 AM
And all the Apple haters claim the "iToys" are responsible for the immense growth. Nah, people just want a PC that works and its called a Mac!
Totally, cause Windows doesnt work...users are just pretending :rolleyes:
Totally, cause Windows doesnt work...users are just pretending :rolleyes:
QCassidy352
Oct 15, 04:49 PM
wireless capabilities is the way of the future. I don't see ourselves in 10 years still being limited by wired headphones and such. Maybe it'll be easier than the Zune (haven't seen the demo) but the idea of beaming a song for somebody else to download/hear is pretty cool to me.
wireless headphones, sure. That's coming, and soon. But beaming songs to other people? No, I don't think it will ever be a very popular idea. I want to listen to my music, not the guy's next to me. That's why I own what I own and not something else. Besides, if I'm wearing headphones that probably means I'm not with anyone I know, and I'm certainly not going to be sharing music with strangers because it would just be weird.
wireless headphones, sure. That's coming, and soon. But beaming songs to other people? No, I don't think it will ever be a very popular idea. I want to listen to my music, not the guy's next to me. That's why I own what I own and not something else. Besides, if I'm wearing headphones that probably means I'm not with anyone I know, and I'm certainly not going to be sharing music with strangers because it would just be weird.
Lord Blackadder
Apr 26, 01:57 PM
Proof? Or did you just make that up? Also, this thread isn't just about the US, the trend is the same in every predominantly white country where blacks reside.
It isn't my job to educate you on the facts - Read (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States), focusing on the linked statistical breakdowns by ethnicity. You'll have to nose around to find all the data. All that the facts proove is that poor black people with little education who grow up in economically depressed comunities and are surrounded by crime are more likely to commit crimes - but are also more likely to be profiled by law enforcement and the justice system. Also, the data are skewed towards urban areas, meaning that poor rural crime is less well documented.
In other words, it is totally impossible to make any purely race-focused judgemnent from the data because there are so many other factors involved. The same problems arise when examining crime data from any other nation with a minority black population, or any minority population for that matter.
I'd rather live in a white trash trailer park than in a black ghetto.
Irrelevant.
They are both lousy, but trailer parks are safer. People may get into domestic disputes in their own trailers and call the police, but you don't see white gangs terrorizing the streets and having to worry about getting shot walking outside your front door after dark.
Proof? Or did you just make that up?
It isn't my job to educate you on the facts - Read (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States), focusing on the linked statistical breakdowns by ethnicity. You'll have to nose around to find all the data. All that the facts proove is that poor black people with little education who grow up in economically depressed comunities and are surrounded by crime are more likely to commit crimes - but are also more likely to be profiled by law enforcement and the justice system. Also, the data are skewed towards urban areas, meaning that poor rural crime is less well documented.
In other words, it is totally impossible to make any purely race-focused judgemnent from the data because there are so many other factors involved. The same problems arise when examining crime data from any other nation with a minority black population, or any minority population for that matter.
I'd rather live in a white trash trailer park than in a black ghetto.
Irrelevant.
They are both lousy, but trailer parks are safer. People may get into domestic disputes in their own trailers and call the police, but you don't see white gangs terrorizing the streets and having to worry about getting shot walking outside your front door after dark.
Proof? Or did you just make that up?
slinger1968
Sep 1, 06:17 PM
Remember that you quoted and responded to my post on a discussion about the cost of UPGRADING from XP to Vista. The $399 price is not an upgrade price. Mentioning or refering to the $399 retail box edition is either ignorant or disingenuous in a discussion on UPGRADING from XP to Vista.
nemaslov
Oct 16, 01:11 PM
You killed your mother because your friends laughed at you :eek: :confused: :p
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NO, She died of natural causes BUT (TRUE STORY) on August 29th, 1966 a friend showed up at my house at 6PM with two tickets to see the Beatles at Candlestick Park in San Francisco. My mother said I could not go becuase I had a drum lesson at 7PM and unless it was cancelled a day in advance, we'd have to pay. So I missed what became the last official concert the Beatles ever played.
I no longer play the drums :confused: AND my mother is dead. :(
see not everyone here is 23...
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NO, She died of natural causes BUT (TRUE STORY) on August 29th, 1966 a friend showed up at my house at 6PM with two tickets to see the Beatles at Candlestick Park in San Francisco. My mother said I could not go becuase I had a drum lesson at 7PM and unless it was cancelled a day in advance, we'd have to pay. So I missed what became the last official concert the Beatles ever played.
I no longer play the drums :confused: AND my mother is dead. :(
see not everyone here is 23...
GREEN4U
Mar 21, 06:55 PM
fake story, you guys will believe anything.
cecildk9999
Oct 26, 07:04 PM
iStat nano widget
I have a question; I run istat nano widget, but have never gotten the temperature readout to work (everything else works fine). Is there something I need to do/can do to get it to register, or does this mean something is messed up on my computer?
I have a question; I run istat nano widget, but have never gotten the temperature readout to work (everything else works fine). Is there something I need to do/can do to get it to register, or does this mean something is messed up on my computer?
Edge100
Nov 27, 01:20 PM
I also think that whoever has the remaining rights to this material realise that its shelf-life is almost up. In 5-10 years time, the broad appeal of much of this material may have less relevance to the average consumer and its perceived market-value may be far less.
That's not a comment on the merits of The Beatles' music; just my view based on many of the comments I read by what I am assuming are younger music listeners.
I'm 43, many of these songs are ingrained into my memory from childhood, but the only Beatles albums I would possibly be interested in are maybe 2-4 remastered CDs; I'm not interested in downloads at all. But to be honest, I don't feel that by not currently owning them that my music collection is lacking at all.
I disagree.
There will be Beatles songs that are removed from the public conciousness in the way you describe, but there will be others that live on. Likewise, the image of the Beatles is long-lasting. I think the time will come that Apple (Corps) will not be able to think up new ways of presenting the music, or people will tire of new ways of hearing the music. In that respect, the revenue stream might dry up.
But the image of the Beatles as the greatest pop/rock band, the music and social innovators, is enduring.
That's not a comment on the merits of The Beatles' music; just my view based on many of the comments I read by what I am assuming are younger music listeners.
I'm 43, many of these songs are ingrained into my memory from childhood, but the only Beatles albums I would possibly be interested in are maybe 2-4 remastered CDs; I'm not interested in downloads at all. But to be honest, I don't feel that by not currently owning them that my music collection is lacking at all.
I disagree.
There will be Beatles songs that are removed from the public conciousness in the way you describe, but there will be others that live on. Likewise, the image of the Beatles is long-lasting. I think the time will come that Apple (Corps) will not be able to think up new ways of presenting the music, or people will tire of new ways of hearing the music. In that respect, the revenue stream might dry up.
But the image of the Beatles as the greatest pop/rock band, the music and social innovators, is enduring.
MISSLAY
Mar 29, 08:40 AM
Lets say they opened at 7:30. I arrived at 6:45 and there were two people there. There were about 10 by 7:30. So not very big line, but then again I think they only received about two of each model/color, except no 64GB models. ok thanks would you say wifi is the best or att&t wifi ??
AndroidfoLife
Apr 16, 09:47 PM
It is true that Apple does use the same parts (e.g. RAM, etc) as other PC manufactures but Apple does design the layout of their own logic boards and another manufacturer assembles it. Apple does not use off the shelf logic boards, batteries, casings, keyboards and mice. Not too mention the A4 and A5 processor are custom built for Apple only.
You are so fixated in your assesment about Apple not using "the best parts" or not "building the best quality computers". Is your reason for being here to set everyone straight? Does it bother you that a community of people believe that what they own is the best? Be honest now.
I come to these forums because I am a Mac enthusiast. I don't go onto the Windows or Android forums and try to shove down peoples throats what I think about Windows or Android. That's not cool and neither is someone coming onto these forums and thinking they are going to set these people straight because you believe they are wrong.
I speak with facts. Hardware is facts. Software is opinions.
You are so fixated in your assesment about Apple not using "the best parts" or not "building the best quality computers". Is your reason for being here to set everyone straight? Does it bother you that a community of people believe that what they own is the best? Be honest now.
I come to these forums because I am a Mac enthusiast. I don't go onto the Windows or Android forums and try to shove down peoples throats what I think about Windows or Android. That's not cool and neither is someone coming onto these forums and thinking they are going to set these people straight because you believe they are wrong.
I speak with facts. Hardware is facts. Software is opinions.
greg70
Mar 12, 05:34 AM
I'm holding my breath.
RIP Scottness (Respirate In Peace)
RIP Scottness (Respirate In Peace)
Fuchal
Mar 25, 04:55 PM
I just downloaded the update, it told me something failed and I need to restore my iPhone. I am on try 3 and it is still failing every time it tries to restore. It's giving me error code 1013. I would stay away from this update for at least a day or two until others give feedback. It doesn't seem to be that critical of an update anyways.
Same thing happened to me... I had to use Tiny Umbrella to kick it out of recovery mode and then it was fine.
Same thing happened to me... I had to use Tiny Umbrella to kick it out of recovery mode and then it was fine.
TheSVD
Mar 10, 06:55 AM
Here's one more. Having grown up there, I'm quite familiar with the place as well. I should see it as a challenge but the familiarity makes it a difficult place for me to photograph.
http://blog.darinrogers.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/MG_9072.jpg (http://blog.darinrogers.net/blog/)
thats really, really good.. the black and white really suits it and the reflection in the water looks great too! beautiful image man :)
mine for today.. a bit of 'no real subject' photo, but i like the lines of the photo.. the fence & stairs leading up :)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5016/5500196540_f8b9e8df77_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/svdphotography/5500196540/)
Stairs (http://www.flickr.com/photos/svdphotography/5500196540/) by TheSVD (http://www.flickr.com/people/svdphotography/), on Flickr
http://blog.darinrogers.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/MG_9072.jpg (http://blog.darinrogers.net/blog/)
thats really, really good.. the black and white really suits it and the reflection in the water looks great too! beautiful image man :)
mine for today.. a bit of 'no real subject' photo, but i like the lines of the photo.. the fence & stairs leading up :)
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5016/5500196540_f8b9e8df77_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/svdphotography/5500196540/)
Stairs (http://www.flickr.com/photos/svdphotography/5500196540/) by TheSVD (http://www.flickr.com/people/svdphotography/), on Flickr
aswitcher
Jan 11, 05:29 PM
Apple will become a cell phone provider. Period. That's it.
Thats a big expense and a very big risk. I dont think so.
What about stereo bluetooth headphones by apple with iPod adapters...
Thats a big expense and a very big risk. I dont think so.
What about stereo bluetooth headphones by apple with iPod adapters...
Peterkro
May 1, 07:22 PM
My wife and I are both alive and well, we only just got electricity back about an hour or so ago. Worst 4 days of our lives, but we got off lucky. Others lost everything, including themselves.
It's a MBP on wireless internet. When it hit, I was hunkered in the interior bathroom with it, the cell phone, a flashlight and two very upset cats.
Glad to hear your OK Corvus.:)
(that's not to say I don't have sympathy for those that didn't fare so well)
It's a MBP on wireless internet. When it hit, I was hunkered in the interior bathroom with it, the cell phone, a flashlight and two very upset cats.
Glad to hear your OK Corvus.:)
(that's not to say I don't have sympathy for those that didn't fare so well)
sishaw
Jan 11, 03:08 PM
Silly rabbits.Apple is talking about the new wireless Apple TV and associated iTunes movie rentals you download from them satellites ;)
OK, but can they transmit directly to the receiver in my tooth?
OK, but can they transmit directly to the receiver in my tooth?
spazzcat
Nov 23, 03:05 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8C148 Safari/6533.18.5)
I thought no one cared...
I thought no one cared...
bdkennedy1
May 4, 09:55 PM
I don't believe it at all unless Apple completely reinvented it. 3D is a gimmick as it stand today and failed back in the 50's and 80's. It's not natural to watch.
macking104
Nov 23, 10:12 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7E18 Safari/528.16)
2 million x $1.29 = good money...
For those comparing Bach and Beatles:
http://amzn.to/fsWOO1
2 million x $1.29 = good money...
For those comparing Bach and Beatles:
http://amzn.to/fsWOO1
WildPalms
Sep 6, 10:13 AM
May I be the first to say: Where's our desktop?
The Mac Pro dude, the Mac Pro is the desktop.
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Shiny!
The Mac Pro dude, the Mac Pro is the desktop.
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Shiny!
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