sertasheep
07-04 12:47 PM
amitjoey, janakp, tikka, macaca, others, please check your email or Private messages for a proposed conf call for some of the key members from IV
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Subst_labor
03-17 11:07 PM
Please do not use offensive language. Despite our disagreements we must be mature in our language. I request you to please edit your post. Moderators please delete any offensive posts on the thread since this issue will ruffle some feathers of people who are buying labor substitution. Nobody will own on the forum, because they know majority will oppose them.
There was one more person beciskillingme and he used to preach morality on this forum and how people need to be respectful and polite. I caught him redhanded in one his posts about labor substitution and he ran away from the forum. Now he is preaching somewhere else. I will highlight this issue more and more for awareness because it is hurting all of us. It is also encouraging exploitation by employers and this cancer needs to be stopped asap.
well if you feel offended, i am ready to offer my apologies. are you ready to take back your baseless accusations-that got me started up in the first place.
There was one more person beciskillingme and he used to preach morality on this forum and how people need to be respectful and polite. I caught him redhanded in one his posts about labor substitution and he ran away from the forum. Now he is preaching somewhere else. I will highlight this issue more and more for awareness because it is hurting all of us. It is also encouraging exploitation by employers and this cancer needs to be stopped asap.
well if you feel offended, i am ready to offer my apologies. are you ready to take back your baseless accusations-that got me started up in the first place.
engineer
07-03 12:04 AM
IV release.:Please send it to other media offices and free press release distribution services
http://immigrationvoice.blogspot.com/
I have sent the blogpost to chowk.com
http://immigrationvoice.blogspot.com/
I have sent the blogpost to chowk.com
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BharatPremi
12-14 05:38 PM
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--What if 10% a year from one country continues for few years...
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What if only few countries ONLY can supply the required skilled labor sufficiently and no other countries can?
--What if 10% a year from one country continues for few years...
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What if only few countries ONLY can supply the required skilled labor sufficiently and no other countries can?
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kavita
02-13 07:20 PM
Hi,
I like the idea but I believe at this time it is crucial to continue participation in the letter campaign. If we do not get success through it, I will be glad to participate in the lawsuit. Also, like me, at that time there might be hundreds of people willing to be a part.
I like the idea but I believe at this time it is crucial to continue participation in the letter campaign. If we do not get success through it, I will be glad to participate in the lawsuit. Also, like me, at that time there might be hundreds of people willing to be a part.
PlainSpeak
01-14 12:24 PM
If you don't believe what IV does, why are you wasting your time here....I see that you are totally jobless....
why are you wasting your time here....
I DO believe in what IV does. Why do you think i am here trying to change the mentality of the abusive corase minded people out here. So you see my friend time here is not wasted
I see that you are totally jobless....
Ahh my friend should not job does not concern you. Instead of worrying about my job what you should be worrying about is the dsiscussion and what are your opinions and remember i am only looking for commnets on teh issue at hand. Anything else is not worth anything but ia m sure you are going to ignore the advise. Seriously please clean up your mind
why are you wasting your time here....
I DO believe in what IV does. Why do you think i am here trying to change the mentality of the abusive corase minded people out here. So you see my friend time here is not wasted
I see that you are totally jobless....
Ahh my friend should not job does not concern you. Instead of worrying about my job what you should be worrying about is the dsiscussion and what are your opinions and remember i am only looking for commnets on teh issue at hand. Anything else is not worth anything but ia m sure you are going to ignore the advise. Seriously please clean up your mind
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greenscope
09-24 10:10 AM
When can I get my gc based on these uscis data for sept 2005 eb-2.Please suggest me.
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ash27
05-29 01:26 PM
For all those who are stating that filing in EB1 should not matter, please withdraw your application and let other people in line move ahead. Give me 1 simple reason, why should we not raise this issue. In hindi, there s an old saying "boondh boond karge ghara bartha hain"....
I will request all of you to send letters to USCIS to raise this issue and lets have a close scrutiny of all EB1 applicants received/filed....I understand that this is not the solution but i am pi***** at people using loopholes all the time.....
I will request all of you to send letters to USCIS to raise this issue and lets have a close scrutiny of all EB1 applicants received/filed....I understand that this is not the solution but i am pi***** at people using loopholes all the time.....
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bayarea07
07-28 11:14 AM
Thanks Gopi for such a sane post, I second what you said below , a person has to be ready mentally to be approached for any business and if they are not ready then the same conversation which they might find helpful at the time when he is mentally ready would look like as a harassment when they are not mentally ready.
and that is what BWW is not doing, beside all what you said i also believe they lie to you a lot as it happened with me on several occasions, they would lie about the credentials aof theirs and theirs upline because they think people are more open to hear from persons who are more successful and thats why they lie about education and job etc..
One of the Diamonds came to my house last year and he projected that he is going to be my best friend even though i said Yes or NO.
He came to my house several times,he would call me everyday and ask me about life in general and all the while behaved as one of my best friend/brother and he disappeared with no phone call at all as soon as i said NO to my upline.
And i believe these all practices of theirs is whats turning people off.
Jayleno - me thinking sane is the reason you didn't hear from me in any malls/WM :) but I was a minority in BWW who believes in waiting till you find like minded people who are looking. cold contacting is just going against human instincts. you can't simply talk to a person about something to get his phone number and call them about this business next day. that is a reg flag right there. i couldn't do it and hence not with this business anymore. many of us are not ready to think about making millions in few short years. some people need to understand that you can't rub that idea with force on another human being.
in BWW terms, i was a quitter who can't take the business to the next level because I was afraid of rejection (getting a NO from prospects)..
and that is what BWW is not doing, beside all what you said i also believe they lie to you a lot as it happened with me on several occasions, they would lie about the credentials aof theirs and theirs upline because they think people are more open to hear from persons who are more successful and thats why they lie about education and job etc..
One of the Diamonds came to my house last year and he projected that he is going to be my best friend even though i said Yes or NO.
He came to my house several times,he would call me everyday and ask me about life in general and all the while behaved as one of my best friend/brother and he disappeared with no phone call at all as soon as i said NO to my upline.
And i believe these all practices of theirs is whats turning people off.
Jayleno - me thinking sane is the reason you didn't hear from me in any malls/WM :) but I was a minority in BWW who believes in waiting till you find like minded people who are looking. cold contacting is just going against human instincts. you can't simply talk to a person about something to get his phone number and call them about this business next day. that is a reg flag right there. i couldn't do it and hence not with this business anymore. many of us are not ready to think about making millions in few short years. some people need to understand that you can't rub that idea with force on another human being.
in BWW terms, i was a quitter who can't take the business to the next level because I was afraid of rejection (getting a NO from prospects)..
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gopinathan
07-28 12:51 PM
I see all the people in these forms who are highly educated but prejudiced about an opportunity because of bad practices by some narrow-minded people. the very word "amway" is frowned upon..
This is what I learned from my experience (the last confrontation/discussion I had with my up-line before quitting). in case of Indians coming to study/work in USA, we did as we are told. we aced the exams, worked hard to get a job and our parents back home are proud. we achieved something in our lives and if a strangers walks by and slaps his pitch saying I am living a lie - that's a nasty pill to swallow. how in the world can someone expect an outsider tell him he is a loser and this business is his ticket to happiness ?? and everything these strangers in the malls do to prove it (like talking about retiring at 40, making millions while driving in $2K cars, having diamonds show their checks) its all making matters worse. that is not how you build credibility with a stranger.
everyone likes financial freedom but you will never get someone to agree to that and accept for help unless you are his close friend or an associate. no one will open-up with his real worries to someone who just showed up with a smiles. how stupid is it to ask someone you come across in WM about his dreams vacation or retirement plans and have the guts to say have a vehicle to fulfill his dreams !
.. a person has to be ready mentally to be approached for any business and if they are not ready then the same conversation which they might find helpful at the time when he is mentally ready would look like as a harassment when they are not mentally ready.
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And i believe these all practices of theirs is whats turning people off.
This is what I learned from my experience (the last confrontation/discussion I had with my up-line before quitting). in case of Indians coming to study/work in USA, we did as we are told. we aced the exams, worked hard to get a job and our parents back home are proud. we achieved something in our lives and if a strangers walks by and slaps his pitch saying I am living a lie - that's a nasty pill to swallow. how in the world can someone expect an outsider tell him he is a loser and this business is his ticket to happiness ?? and everything these strangers in the malls do to prove it (like talking about retiring at 40, making millions while driving in $2K cars, having diamonds show their checks) its all making matters worse. that is not how you build credibility with a stranger.
everyone likes financial freedom but you will never get someone to agree to that and accept for help unless you are his close friend or an associate. no one will open-up with his real worries to someone who just showed up with a smiles. how stupid is it to ask someone you come across in WM about his dreams vacation or retirement plans and have the guts to say have a vehicle to fulfill his dreams !
.. a person has to be ready mentally to be approached for any business and if they are not ready then the same conversation which they might find helpful at the time when he is mentally ready would look like as a harassment when they are not mentally ready.
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And i believe these all practices of theirs is whats turning people off.
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venetian
05-11 06:33 PM
Illusions,
If BBC, AFP, AP & Reuters are considered a reliable source of information, then what is happening in Sri Lanka is genocide.
venetian, you could say that the Tamils in SL were just as a much discriminated in SL as the Muslims in India.
There is no such Genocide happening in SL as some claim. As a matter of fact the LTTE ethnically cleansed the Muslims from the NE of the country in the 90's, yet the Muslims in SL didn't bare arms against the LTTE.
Mind you the civil war in SL is against the LTTE, not the Tamils.
If BBC, AFP, AP & Reuters are considered a reliable source of information, then what is happening in Sri Lanka is genocide.
venetian, you could say that the Tamils in SL were just as a much discriminated in SL as the Muslims in India.
There is no such Genocide happening in SL as some claim. As a matter of fact the LTTE ethnically cleansed the Muslims from the NE of the country in the 90's, yet the Muslims in SL didn't bare arms against the LTTE.
Mind you the civil war in SL is against the LTTE, not the Tamils.
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PlainSpeak
01-13 03:45 PM
mc,
this guy is pulling u'r chains..... its not she.... its a he.....
u know who this guy is? surprise surprise ....... gcperm is back.... as plainspeak....
hey gcperm aka plainspeak..... long time.... where've u been? i missed u :rolleyes:
Ron Hira my friend you are on an immigration forum and you have an Anti Immigrant login id. Now what could be funnier than that Ha Ha...
As to me being a guy phasshhhhhh i am all female
And i am laughing in my pants seeing you confuse me with GCPerm. I remeber seeing that name on IV before. Was he an EB3 who was kicked out by you guys ?
this guy is pulling u'r chains..... its not she.... its a he.....
u know who this guy is? surprise surprise ....... gcperm is back.... as plainspeak....
hey gcperm aka plainspeak..... long time.... where've u been? i missed u :rolleyes:
Ron Hira my friend you are on an immigration forum and you have an Anti Immigrant login id. Now what could be funnier than that Ha Ha...
As to me being a guy phasshhhhhh i am all female
And i am laughing in my pants seeing you confuse me with GCPerm. I remeber seeing that name on IV before. Was he an EB3 who was kicked out by you guys ?
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go_guy123
06-12 12:10 AM
...were forced to leave. This is the darwinian flush and it will take its toll. ......
Without any visa capture....EB2/EB3 India will get flushed in this deep recession.
Without any visa capture....EB2/EB3 India will get flushed in this deep recession.
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crazyghoda
05-29 01:25 PM
software engineers now coming to US to Religious workers..
Maybe the temples and other places of worship need software to manage the huge donations all of us are making to God to make the dates move. :D
Just a joke folks, dont get worked up.
Maybe the temples and other places of worship need software to manage the huge donations all of us are making to God to make the dates move. :D
Just a joke folks, dont get worked up.
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Lasantha
09-29 11:07 AM
Yes, it is. I used it when I went to get my Canadian PR validated in June this year. Are you flying or driving? Make sure you do not surrender your I-94.
Take a letter from your employer and recent paystubs just in case. (They didn't ask for them but take them anyway).
I assume you know all the conditions?
Take a letter from your employer and recent paystubs just in case. (They didn't ask for them but take them anyway).
I assume you know all the conditions?
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senthil1
06-14 12:10 PM
What is your solution to remove retrogession. Recapture bill may fetch you gc but not for all persons and after 1 or 2 years again backlog will increase to similar level. Permanent solution will be increase annual gc numbers and restrict H1b and L1 based on requirement. You are not going to get unlimited GC numbers any time but L1 numbers are unlimited(about 80k in 2007) and H1b numbers were 125K in 2007. In this situation if there is annual cap retrogession is going to become worse if atleast 50% of H1bs apply for GC every year.
This year numbers were much less due to recession,rfes and denials. But due to 195k H1bs issued upto 2003 Eb3 will not improve for another 2 years.
BTW senthil1 is an anti-immigrant and one of the most despised individual on this forum for his "close the door behind me" attitude. You guys together will definitely have a good time !
This year numbers were much less due to recession,rfes and denials. But due to 195k H1bs issued upto 2003 Eb3 will not improve for another 2 years.
BTW senthil1 is an anti-immigrant and one of the most despised individual on this forum for his "close the door behind me" attitude. You guys together will definitely have a good time !
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sac-r-ten
07-21 12:17 PM
Did it for 4 years and quit in 2007... lost 20K and 95% of my friends...
Quixtar is not bad but the people running sub-businesses (such as BWW etc) by pushing tapes and books on you make it HELL
Stay Away unless you are willing to lose a lot to gain a few!!
PEACE
got into it, pulled off 3 weeks later. they refunded my investment w/o any issue. but yes never lost that persons contact who got friendly with me for this and we remain good family friends. so there are exceptions.
Quixtar is not bad but the people running sub-businesses (such as BWW etc) by pushing tapes and books on you make it HELL
Stay Away unless you are willing to lose a lot to gain a few!!
PEACE
got into it, pulled off 3 weeks later. they refunded my investment w/o any issue. but yes never lost that persons contact who got friendly with me for this and we remain good family friends. so there are exceptions.
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surabhi
07-21 05:13 PM
For 2007 we had an availability of 226,000 Family Based Visas. But the issued visas in 2007 in Family Based are 194,900 visas. That means there are 226,000 MINUS 194,900 = 31100. These 31,100
unused Family Based Visas have been made available for 2008 Employment Based Visas of 140,000. And USCIS has 28,795 unused VISAS of American Competitiveness in the 21st Century Act of 2000 (AC21).
American Competitiveness in the 21st Century Act of 2000 (AC21) had recaptured 130,107 visas.
Out of that 94,000 were used in 2005.
7,312 were used in 2007.
So dont know when the available 28,795 unused VISAS of AC21 will be used again.
The unused family based visas of 2007 are 31,100 , which are going to be added for Employement Based Visas of 2008. So the total Employment based visas for 2008 are 140,000 + 31,100 = 171,100.
Theses 171,100 EB Visas of 2008 will be split like, asuming USCIS is not using the availble 28,795 unused VISAS of AC21 below.
(If USCIS decides to use some or all of 28,795 unused VISAS of AC21, then the available Employment Based VISAS of 2008 increases accordingly. )
28.6 percent each EB1, EB2 and EB3. 48934 VISAS for Each Category.
And 7.1 percent each EB4 and EB5. 12148 VISAS for the last two EB categories.
So in 2008 the total Visas for EB1 and EB2 are 48934 + 48934 = 97868 plus unused EB4 and EB5 visas of 2008.
The total EB5 Visas usage never crossed 824 in the past 10 years(Average Usage is 376/year).
So there would be 11148 visas available for EB1 from EB5 (assuming 1,000 visas are used in EB5 which is highly impossible)
The unused EB4 Visas may be couple of thousand or null, based on the past 10 years EB4 usage (7,223 is the average usage)
Assume there are only 2,000 EB4 VISAS unused in 2008 (defenitely it would be more unused).
So the total EB1 and EB2 Visas for 2008 are
48934 + 48934 + 11,148 + 2,000 = 111,016
The Family visas spill over is something I couldnt understand. They are retrogressed by > 10 years for many categories. Is that conflicting with spill over? Why would there be spill over with such backlog?
I havent researched FB category , so apologize if its silly question
unused Family Based Visas have been made available for 2008 Employment Based Visas of 140,000. And USCIS has 28,795 unused VISAS of American Competitiveness in the 21st Century Act of 2000 (AC21).
American Competitiveness in the 21st Century Act of 2000 (AC21) had recaptured 130,107 visas.
Out of that 94,000 were used in 2005.
7,312 were used in 2007.
So dont know when the available 28,795 unused VISAS of AC21 will be used again.
The unused family based visas of 2007 are 31,100 , which are going to be added for Employement Based Visas of 2008. So the total Employment based visas for 2008 are 140,000 + 31,100 = 171,100.
Theses 171,100 EB Visas of 2008 will be split like, asuming USCIS is not using the availble 28,795 unused VISAS of AC21 below.
(If USCIS decides to use some or all of 28,795 unused VISAS of AC21, then the available Employment Based VISAS of 2008 increases accordingly. )
28.6 percent each EB1, EB2 and EB3. 48934 VISAS for Each Category.
And 7.1 percent each EB4 and EB5. 12148 VISAS for the last two EB categories.
So in 2008 the total Visas for EB1 and EB2 are 48934 + 48934 = 97868 plus unused EB4 and EB5 visas of 2008.
The total EB5 Visas usage never crossed 824 in the past 10 years(Average Usage is 376/year).
So there would be 11148 visas available for EB1 from EB5 (assuming 1,000 visas are used in EB5 which is highly impossible)
The unused EB4 Visas may be couple of thousand or null, based on the past 10 years EB4 usage (7,223 is the average usage)
Assume there are only 2,000 EB4 VISAS unused in 2008 (defenitely it would be more unused).
So the total EB1 and EB2 Visas for 2008 are
48934 + 48934 + 11,148 + 2,000 = 111,016
The Family visas spill over is something I couldnt understand. They are retrogressed by > 10 years for many categories. Is that conflicting with spill over? Why would there be spill over with such backlog?
I havent researched FB category , so apologize if its silly question
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Bpositive
02-12 10:21 PM
I fully support this....
sam_i02
07-24 04:35 PM
Its not the question of economy alone. When deciding to go back. Its a question about convenience.
a) I don't want to stand in line to pay my Electric/Telephone/House Tax/Income Tax/Train Ticket/Air Ticket/Bus Ticket/Children Admission-donations/Petrol Line/LP Gas Line/Restaurant Line/Chola Bhatura Line/Samosa Line/RTO Office line/Registration line/License Line/Stock Buy line/Stock Sell Line/Bank Deposit Line/Bank Draft Line/Fixed Deposit Line/Kisaan Vikas Patra Line/Registered/Speed post Line/Blue Dart Line/Company registration line/College admission line/College fee line/University degree line/Interview Line/Booking a Car line/Beer Whisky Line/Canteen Line.
Half the country stands in line, the other half manages the line. Neither has any civic sense.
b) I don't want to bribe babus who manage above lines to get ahead in line.
d) I don't want power failures/cooler failures/ac failures/broken roads/or other catastrophic system failures.
e) I dont want fake or mixed eating oil / flour / milk / cheese / butter / peppers / lentils / rice
f) I don't want dangerous chemical fertilizers in my produce (slow killers - massive kidney failure rate in India for past 10 years)
g) I don't want to teach my children dishonesty and tricks of survival/street smartness (in ref to corruption in India) which don't add any value to their personality.
h) The only reason I would wanna go back is for my immediate family and friends. Thats the only thing I miss when it comes to India.
I wouldn't go back and I believe even MK Gandhi himself would'nt leave from Africa for India in todays times.
Also Its the enemy within (corruption) which can cause great harm and we have that kind of enemy now. You can never ever change the attitudes which people carry in India without another revolution.
I am sure I can come up with a huge list of positives too, They will sound very good and will give me a great feeling of fake National Pride.
Now go ahead and kill me for saying all the above.!!
Wow! This can get ugly very quick.
But I agree with you. I am from paksitan and feel the same way. This decision is more for my kids future and not mine.
And yes, along with all of the above, add in religious fundamentalism for my home..... :(
a) I don't want to stand in line to pay my Electric/Telephone/House Tax/Income Tax/Train Ticket/Air Ticket/Bus Ticket/Children Admission-donations/Petrol Line/LP Gas Line/Restaurant Line/Chola Bhatura Line/Samosa Line/RTO Office line/Registration line/License Line/Stock Buy line/Stock Sell Line/Bank Deposit Line/Bank Draft Line/Fixed Deposit Line/Kisaan Vikas Patra Line/Registered/Speed post Line/Blue Dart Line/Company registration line/College admission line/College fee line/University degree line/Interview Line/Booking a Car line/Beer Whisky Line/Canteen Line.
Half the country stands in line, the other half manages the line. Neither has any civic sense.
b) I don't want to bribe babus who manage above lines to get ahead in line.
d) I don't want power failures/cooler failures/ac failures/broken roads/or other catastrophic system failures.
e) I dont want fake or mixed eating oil / flour / milk / cheese / butter / peppers / lentils / rice
f) I don't want dangerous chemical fertilizers in my produce (slow killers - massive kidney failure rate in India for past 10 years)
g) I don't want to teach my children dishonesty and tricks of survival/street smartness (in ref to corruption in India) which don't add any value to their personality.
h) The only reason I would wanna go back is for my immediate family and friends. Thats the only thing I miss when it comes to India.
I wouldn't go back and I believe even MK Gandhi himself would'nt leave from Africa for India in todays times.
Also Its the enemy within (corruption) which can cause great harm and we have that kind of enemy now. You can never ever change the attitudes which people carry in India without another revolution.
I am sure I can come up with a huge list of positives too, They will sound very good and will give me a great feeling of fake National Pride.
Now go ahead and kill me for saying all the above.!!
Wow! This can get ugly very quick.
But I agree with you. I am from paksitan and feel the same way. This decision is more for my kids future and not mine.
And yes, along with all of the above, add in religious fundamentalism for my home..... :(
ivgclive
07-21 05:11 PM
Signs and Warning...
1. Mostly he seems to be a weird guy.
* God has given us special white blood cells that can find these guys.
* Listen to your inner soul when it says 'I don't feel comfortable'.
2. He walks with empty hands (RICH people) while all others in the shop walk with a cart and/or some goods.
3. Talks loudly, using words as if he is lending money to Warren Buffett or Bill Gates..
4. His approach.
* Are you Mr.<a name in south/north depends on your appearance>?
* I can't believe I meet you here.
* You look very familiar to me.
* You look like my younger brother / son / daughter / friend / father / mother / cousin / tomato / carrot / spinach etc
5. Look for these words...
* Do you want to make LOT of money? (eventhough he looks like a crap, wandering in a grocery store not buying anything, driving a 1990 Toyotta Tercel).
* I have a wonderful business opportunity for you.
* What do you do in your free time?
* I am running a eBusiness, eCommerce etc.
* Do you want to make use of your free time in a productive way.
* Count the number of times he uses the word 'Money', if it is more than 2 times, he is from that cult.
6. Finally,
* Can we meet sometimes this week?
* Do you want to attend a Business Meetting (!) with top heads next week?
* Do you want to just see what we are doing? (Why the hell I need to see?)
* Do you want to join us for a Tea, Cofee... (Believe me, they won't call you for Lunch or Dinner, eventhough they always talk about the LOT OF MONEY they have made)
I read lot of news from school and I learnt this 'multi-link' business 20 to 25 years back. So as soon as he asked me if I wish to make 'LOT OF MONEY' without working, I understood that the poisonous snakes had entered US long time back.
I had only one encounter 10 years back that went up to the so called 'Business meeting with Tea Party' because I was new to US and these guys were using an updated terminology.
From then on, I enjoy if I meet such people in Malls, grocery stores, Walmarts. I let him talk for about 20 - 30 mins when my wife is shopping. Asking him very basic questions as if I have not seen a $10 bill in my life. By the time he realizes that I am playing, my wife finishes shopping and we leave.
This way you can keep yourself updated on the tricks. Amazingly these guys read technology news a lot than us and upgrade their techniques.
1. Mostly he seems to be a weird guy.
* God has given us special white blood cells that can find these guys.
* Listen to your inner soul when it says 'I don't feel comfortable'.
2. He walks with empty hands (RICH people) while all others in the shop walk with a cart and/or some goods.
3. Talks loudly, using words as if he is lending money to Warren Buffett or Bill Gates..
4. His approach.
* Are you Mr.<a name in south/north depends on your appearance>?
* I can't believe I meet you here.
* You look very familiar to me.
* You look like my younger brother / son / daughter / friend / father / mother / cousin / tomato / carrot / spinach etc
5. Look for these words...
* Do you want to make LOT of money? (eventhough he looks like a crap, wandering in a grocery store not buying anything, driving a 1990 Toyotta Tercel).
* I have a wonderful business opportunity for you.
* What do you do in your free time?
* I am running a eBusiness, eCommerce etc.
* Do you want to make use of your free time in a productive way.
* Count the number of times he uses the word 'Money', if it is more than 2 times, he is from that cult.
6. Finally,
* Can we meet sometimes this week?
* Do you want to attend a Business Meetting (!) with top heads next week?
* Do you want to just see what we are doing? (Why the hell I need to see?)
* Do you want to join us for a Tea, Cofee... (Believe me, they won't call you for Lunch or Dinner, eventhough they always talk about the LOT OF MONEY they have made)
I read lot of news from school and I learnt this 'multi-link' business 20 to 25 years back. So as soon as he asked me if I wish to make 'LOT OF MONEY' without working, I understood that the poisonous snakes had entered US long time back.
I had only one encounter 10 years back that went up to the so called 'Business meeting with Tea Party' because I was new to US and these guys were using an updated terminology.
From then on, I enjoy if I meet such people in Malls, grocery stores, Walmarts. I let him talk for about 20 - 30 mins when my wife is shopping. Asking him very basic questions as if I have not seen a $10 bill in my life. By the time he realizes that I am playing, my wife finishes shopping and we leave.
This way you can keep yourself updated on the tricks. Amazingly these guys read technology news a lot than us and upgrade their techniques.
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